The public sentiment toward Trump's handling of the Russia-Ukraine conflict is predominantly negative, revealing widespread skepticism about his effectiveness and sincerity in foreign policy. Many commenters express concern over his indecisive ultimatums, inadequate military strategies, and a tendency to prioritize political agendas over genuine resolutions. The discussions reflect a deep frustration regarding ongoing humanitarian crises and the perceived futility of his diplomatic efforts.

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VAWNavyVet

The Trump cult won't care. They'll do whatever mental gymnastics it takes not to blame Dear Leader for the failure.

Giga-Gargantuar

Repercussions??? Where would this repercussions come from?
Maga just agrees to everything he does.
Republicans have to agree with him.
Dems got no balls.
Media thinks this is all a game and fun for rating's.

Willis794613

Repercussions for trump? The cult won’t care. He’ll say it’s Biden and Obama’s fault and people will believe him.

throwaway640631

The Russian economy is garbage and fueled entirely by massive amounts of military spending with money that doesn't exist all to fuel a 1,239 day war that was expected to only take 3 days. Of course Putin "outlasted" 4 US presidents, he's a dictator and they were elected presidents. He's certainly not the strategic genius that a lot of people once thought he was.

Trump's ultimatum won't have any impact because we've already sanctioned Russia about as much as we can sanction them. The only remaining course of action on this front is to go after the few remaining buyers of Russian oil, namely India, China and Turkey. Mostly India though and there are numerous valid reasons we haven't gone after India before this so we shall see if Trump actually does it or not. Doing so would speed up the crumbling of Russia's economy but its not going to force Putin to negotiate in good faith.

Putin needs his victory in Ukraine because the only thing Putin cares about is Putin and his legacy. Trump's base will forget all about his Ukraine promises just like they are currently trying to forget all about Epstein and his files which Trump promised to release

DarthPineapple5

I don't see Conservatives being all that upset if he doesn't resolve it. Especially since many Conservatives don't believe we should be involved in the conflict at all. He might deject a portion of his base with recent moves to send arms to Ukraine, but we've seen how many ardent supporters of his (even if they're anti-interventionist) will ultimately fall in line.

For the broader public, probably antagonism if Russia is able to cede more ground in Ukraine, with a worse case being the taking of most Ukranian territories. A long term affect of this would likely be him considered as a pivotal reason in why momentum for Ukraine ultimately failed. However, I do think Biden will/should also carry some blame in the slow-walking of munitions to Ukraine as well.

Biggy_DX

He will fail. MAGA will spin it as good because isolationism and claim we’re saving a bunch of money.  Everyone else will see it for the failure we all knew was going to happen. 

The next adult president will have to deal with it.

leons_getting_larger

tlhsg

Nothing, he could shoot someone and his people would blame ObamaBiden

Meet_James_Ensor

I think if push came to shove his base would put all the blame on Europe. I fully expect it to come to a close over the next year or two, and think it would require a large escalation to still be going on by the end of the term.

If there is a large escalation it is really hard to make predictions without knowing the reason for escalation. Obviously if Russia attacked Poland, we would have larger things to worry about than simply bringing it to a close.

The part I can’t figure out is what a conclusion will look like without escalation. Will Ukraine concede large swaths of land? will there be alliance repercussions? will sanctions remain in place? will Putin have any problems remaining in power? Idk.

DatDudeDrew

Nothing. MAGA doesn’t care and we are beyond the point in authoritarianism where his actions have real consequences. He has consolidated enough power and convinced masses of fake news. The consequences are zero, he will do his authoritarian thing and only the wheels of democracy matter. They don’t seem to have much tread on them these days.

Previous-Distance-11

&gt;I'm interested in hearing others' opinions on what the repercussions might be for Trump

&gt;with his base

They'll stick with him. If there is any resolution they will count it as a win, be loud about it, and claim "Trump ended Biden's war" even if the resolution is just rolling over and giving Russia whatever it wants. If there is no resolution or an escalation his base will claim it was inevitable and probably "Biden's fault for getting us into this to begin with". If you're still with Trump at this point, I don't expect consistency from you and expect your principles to change to suit the current Trumpist narrative. They'll go where they are led, even if it means contradicting previous statements or suddenly dropping principles they claimed to care about. 


&gt;with those who didn’t vote for him

They'll continue to hate him. If there is a resolution it won't be good enough even if Trump does a 180 and supports Ukraine all the way to victory, and if there isn't a resolution or is an escalation we'll get the "I told you so" followed by his base pivoting and libs getting upset over the pivot while trying to "hold them accountable" like impotent hall monitors. 



&gt;Do you think Trump can stop it, or will it continue to drag on for another presidential term—or possibly even escalate?

The only way he will stop it is to basically give Russia what it wants and try to frame it as a win for himself. He doesn't seem likely to do that at the moment due to the ultimatum, but I think it is the most likely outcome. I'll give it a month before Trump starts warming up to Russia again because Trump is not particularly consistent and has shown favorability to Putin more than this current "hardball" tactic. I suspect the favorability is more enduring than the "hardball". If Trump doesn't just roll over to Russia on the matter, I expect for it to continue to drag on in a way akin to America's attempts as nation building in the middle east or occupation of Vietnam. The Ukranians won't be giving up even if they end up occupied by Russia, so even after "victory" it will be hard to hold it. Even then, that victory certainly isn't assured (Europe broadly has started to rev up their militaries again). 

I won't be surprised if it escalates either. Trump is sort of doing his own version of Nixon's "Madman Theory" of foreign policy, just with tariffs and threats of bombing stuff. He issues ultimatums, and it's never clear whether he will back off on them or double down. He has done both. Which he will do in this case is uncertain, but I am leaning towards him bluffing and backing down and rolling over to Russia simply because he seems to favor Russia quite a bit.

 My magic crystal ball is having wifi issues, so predictions are never certain, but that's my take on the matter.

AltiraAltishta

Same as when he said he could end the war on day one.

h20poIo

Nothing. His followers don’t care and neither does he. More pressing is if Gaza get in the way of building another hotel.

grundlefuck

Trump seems to be stymied as to handle the whole Russo-Ukraine conflict no do I think he cares at all about it. He probably flip flop as time goes on. One minute he will aide Ukraine then next he will say something positive about Putin. Although it could be rough because certain cabinet members like Pete Hegseth will hault aid to Ukraine without the president being informed. 

This admin lacks transparency so its hard to tell what is going to happen next. Ukraine really needs our patriot missiles and Europe is already expanding military/humanitarian aid for them.

Aquatic_Platinum78

lol. Repercussions and trump in the same sentence. lol

cptmartin11

ThinOpinions

Nothing.  He's not running for President again so it won't matter.  The party will pay the price, not Trump.

Miserable-Lawyer-233

I don’t think Trump gets any negative repercussions for not solving Ukraine.

Trump is able to blame Biden &amp; Europe for the initial invasion for not having credible redlines, and Obama &amp; Merkel for not pushing back on Crimea / allowing Germany’s stupid energy dependence.

It will be an effective deflection because, well, it is true - he had a pretty abysmal starting hand.

Kman17

Trump doesn’t face those, his supporters support him unconditionally.

Still_a_skeptic

Prg909

There could be repercussions from the non-Maga independents, etc., who voted for him this time. To anyone with a modicum of common sense, Trump has been humiliated by Putin and humiliated himself. He boasted and bragged about his magical powers as a statesman and peacemaker, assured everyone how quickly he would end the war, and fell flat on his face. Now He looks like a fool and a bum, not a genius. That’s not going to impress anyone who might be more or less on the fence about which way to lean.

buckthorn5510

JayKaze

I think Trump has a genuine desire for a cessation to the conflict. The '50 days' suggests that he knows it won't happen quickly, much less immediately. 

It also gives Trump time to forward US weapons to Europe -- which ostensibly is so Europeans can pay for the weapons, though it also *symbolically distances* Trump from the very weapons that will be used to hit Russian targets.

To answer the main question, I presume there will be a modicum of political fallout, though probably not enough to impede other aspects of Trump's agenda.

Where is the war headed? It seems to be a long slog -- typical of Russian ground wars. It has accelerated the adverse demographic decline in both countries. It has converted the economies of both countries into wartime economies. 

I presume there will be an eventual cessation and possibly a DMZ. I think European defense will remain stronger generationally (whether under the flag of NATO or otherwise). Russia will likely suffer a regime 'transition' in some form -- though hopefully it can avoid a collapse scenario (a la Dec '91).

DavidMeridian

I don’t know.  He’s given an awful lot of people deadlines and they pass.   He’s very big on lines in the sand.  

I would imagine they will attempt to cut off Russia’s oil export business and defund his ability to continue on.   This will destabilize the Russian economy and cause Putin all sorts of problems.

128-NotePolyVA

Why is it America’s job to make them stop fighting? What are we supposed to do?  looks like another Syria to me.

1singhnee

Nothing. He is Putin’s ally. Every day he wakes up and hopes his friend is marching through Kyiv, ordering the massacre of Ukrainians.

daKile57

Iyamthegatekeeper

Nothing.  MAGA doesn't care what Trump does.

SocraticMeathead

Unlikely_Minute7627

The Daily Beast will run articles about AOC SLAMMING him.  Right wing media will declare victory.

gsfgf

Antioch666

I guess two weeks wouldn't have been enough?

Funny-Recipe2953

It will be seen as a foreign policy failure.  Although Trump can't run in 2028, his Republican replacement will have a harder time winning.  Even though many conservatives question why America is involved, I don't think they'll like it if Russia conquers Ukraine.  They'd rather Russia give up and pull out.

Particular_Dot_4041

Repercussions for Trump?

You didn't really address this, you talked about repercussions for the rest of the world.

I don't think either Trump or Putin will back down.  I see this conflict continuing.  How much support Trump gets to escalate this in congress and in opinion polls is still hard to call.

The only way to stop this honestly IMO is a multi-national effort.  The US military is capable of stopping it, but I don't think Trump wants to do this alone.

As far as Trump personally, no effect.  He will finish out his term with about the same % of people that support him and about the same % that hate him.

dgillz

Nothing

It’s really not the US responsibility to end it and there is no real legal issue if it doesn’t end.

Ruthless4u

Stop or else! Or else what? Or else I’ll say Stop again!

capofliberty

What were the repercussions for Biden, who didnt stop it? What were the repercussions for Obama, who let Russia take Crimea?

Mammoth-Accident-809

intothewoods76

It will really hurt his reelection chances.

FarRightBerniSanders

Nothing, it's not his war and the US didn't start it.

Unable-Expression-46

Trump has been at this for 6 months, that wasn't enough, so he gives Russia another 50 days to bomb Ukraine, why. Where does he come up with these numbers whether it's tariffs or wars. The Russian economy isn't strong, 9% inflation, owes billions to banks and a labor shortage. The only thing keeping them afloat is moderate oil prices. 

I don't see much in the way of retribution from MAGA supporters, that 30% doesn't care much what he promises. Ending inflation on day one, ending war in Palestine and Ukraine on day one, Mexico will pay for the wall, bring manufacturing back........

But the other more rational moderate voters have seen his failures, they will take note on the mid-terms.

Anxious_Claim_5817

Nothing, his supporters don't care when he goes back on what he said he would do when in office. They make up excuse after excuse to keep supporting him regardless of what he does.

QuirrelsTurban

For Trump? None. We do not have a horse in this race. Russia is an adversarial nation and so is Ukraine. If the war continues, more US adversaries will kill each other.  

Internationally, this probably means America will not get involved in international conflict unless Americans are directly harmed, false flag or not.  

Domestically, we waste less money on foreign aid, which is then routed to other efforts ideally domestic.

Politi-Corveau

The question shouldn’t be if the war isn’t stopped, it should be if US involvement in the war isn’t stopped. What he should have done is said that what he meant by “end the war on day one” is end US involvement on day one, something totally within his power. If he did that, the US wouldn’t have lost a war to Russia, it would have merely chosen not to fight Russia. However he didn’t, and at this point I don’t think he can accurately say this is Biden’s war. Trump is now authorizing new weapons shipments to Ukraine above and beyond what Biden authorized. Sure, Biden may have started the war, but Trump is picking up where Biden left off and is continuing it. 

Bottom line is that I don’t think there is anything anyone can do to stop Russia from achieving its stated goals. The Ukrainian government seems content with going down Germany 1945 style if it means not having to give concessions. Why Trump hasn’t realized that there is physically no way to gain leverage over Russia is beyond comprehensible given just how much he has unsuccessfully tried.

Trump needs to just stop being involved in the war. If he had pulled out as soon as he got there, then maybe he could argue that we didn’t lose the fight, we just chose not to fight at all. But if he is convinced by the war hawks to supply Ukraine until their complete collapse, then the world will know that Russia defeated the US in a war on the steppes of Ukraine, and the perception of US military dominance will be gone.

Potaeto_Object

Trump doesn't have repercussions.  Everything bounces off of him -- everything.  If that isn't clear by now I don't know what to tell any of you.

That said, the repercussions will be felt by the EU, with further instability.  This is something the Trump admin and the Putin regime want.  So the more people lose, the more the oligarchy wins.  Fair trade, da?

asher1611

roentgen_nos

ForsakenAd545

I mean, it’s six months into his [promise to end the war on day one](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna202966), so anyone that would ave cared about that would have already complained if they were going to. Let’s face it, republicans only cared about Ukraine because they could use it as a cudgel against Biden.

C4dfael

Zero.  None.  It will be excused away as "he was speaking metaphorically" or some other lame ass excuse.

ShitTheBed_Twice

His MAGA minions will beg him to run again in 2028.

juslqqking

Biggest losers in all this? The grounds crew. They’ve moved that goalpost so many times it’s basically on tour. Don’t forget to cover up the last crater—wouldn’t want anyone to notice.

Different-Job-3007

Since Putin can begin a ceasefire *today* by simply stopping the military campaign *today*, one can only surmise that Trump is trying to undermine growing frustration in the Republican caucus by driving a wedge between the hawks and the MAGA isolationists, or he believes he can choreograph a ceasefire after Russia has completed as much of a land grab as it can by the time that window is up.

These deadlines always have a habit of moving, of course, so it’s notable primarily insofar as he is giving Russia more time to end a war it started than he has given American trade partners and allies time to adapt to punishing tariffs being imposed for no comprehensible reason.

SimeanPhi

We have yet to see any repercussions on anything so far.  Hell the closest we've seen MAGA mad at him have been at the Epstein files and that'll fade from memory shortly.

Chewbubbles

I don't really see any significant repercussions for Trump if he can't stop the war.

&gt;Also, where do you see this war heading?

I think it'll continue to drag on for a few more years. Russia doesn't want to make concessions when they have the stronger position, and Ukraine doesn't want to make concessions to a state lead by who they view as Hitler/Satan incarnate.

amongusmuncher

Nothing. The base isn’t unified in their opinions on Ukraine. Just about any move on that front has a 50-50 chance of pleasing or annoying part of the base.

LegallyReactionary

Aggravating-Scale-21

2 weeks + 2 weeks + 2 weeks and now it's a first 50 days. It's escalation?

Longjumping-Boot1886

50 days seems like an extremely long deadline

Gogs85

Trump gives Putin green light to another 50 days of attack in Ukraine.

GladForChokolade

halee1

Or to rephrase it a bit: "Trump formally grants Putin another 50 days of free reign."

TheoremaEgregium

So basically, Trump just wants to avoid talking about Ukraine in at least next 50 days

xBIRCHEx

"Well i really tried, but putin is not giving in, he's so determined and savvy, so we can't do anything else. Hey, I got new tariffs for everyone!"

ahyesmyelbows

Ham_I_right

49 days greenlight to go ahead and bomb

On 50th day they will have a call, putin says he is basically ready for peace...as long as his requirements are met, presents a lit of unacceptable requirements, trump will ask zelenski to fulfill them, he says he cant, trump will say zelenski wants war and war continues 

TACO

new_accnt1234

Putin announces escalation, Trump allows 50 days of it.

CandyAble3015

Wait, the war is still going on?  Trump swore he'd end it within 24 hours of taking office...

Rurumo666

America is quicker to fuck over its allies than it is to fuck over a terrorist dictatorship like Ruzzia. Pathetic

Aromatic-Deer3886

Or what? Gonna tariff Russia too?

Edit: Oh he actually threatened with tarrifs, can't make this shit up

Edit2:

&gt;‘I speak to him a lot about getting this thing done, and I always hang up say, “Well, that was a nice phone call,”‘ Trump said.

&gt;‘And then missiles launched into Kyiv or some other city, and I said, “strange.”

&gt;‘And after that happens three or four times, you say, “The talk doesn’t mean anything.”‘

How idiotic do you have to be to believe anything Putin tells you, while EVERYONE, including his own cabinet warned him not to be duped by him?

This has to be ragebait, I'm falling for it...

eSportskills

Trump is really escalating on the deadlines. First its 24 hours, then its two weeks, now we are at 50 days. If Putin doesn’t bend, he is going to exceed the timeline even further!

Capital-Dentist-8101

-Against-All-Gods-

HrabiaVulpes

Putin getting more extensions than I had on advanced mathematics at uni..

r0w33

-Havery-

Trump gives press some bullshit to fawn over to deflect from Epstein files. Am I close?

Darth-mickyluv

Wait until he announces a PAUSE on the deadline...

qu4sar_

He really, really wants that Nobel peace prize and he feels it slipping away!  He’ll do anything to get it and thinks he actually has a chance. I remain convinced he will ask one of his minions (including other world leaders) to actually make up a new one and present it to him when the Nobel team ‘declines’ to award it to him.

Humphrey_the_Hoser

50 days before what? Before he extends 50 days more???

Fuskeduske

popejohnsmith

If you don't stop this war by September, you will be receiving a bigly worded letter asking you to stop the war by November.  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Roxorboxor77

Good luck with that…

Now. Let’s talk about Jeffrey Epstein and that troublesome list.

Big-Income-9393

Frenzystor

coomsai

Deadline must coincide with his first 24 hours as president surely.

PckMan

Let's hope this doesn't work like his tariff deadlines.

JohnnyElRed

The story is that, yet again, trump does nothing but says a lot.

frankster

Stop it or else I’ll give you 2 more weeks!

He was going to stop this war 6 months ago. I guess in his clouded mind he forgot

Sufficient-Wish2446

CaterpillarSame2153

Trump won't even remember this deadline tomorrow.

dani3po

50 more days for Putin to kill innocents people unanswered. F’n Trump

CheapMuffin0

What happened to the 24 hour, solve the war problem in Ukrainevplan that never got implemented?

Senior_Green_3630

goddoc

Trump is a paper tiger; he’ll grant extension after extension.

wabashcanonball

“And this time I really, really mean it.”

grandemontana

Oh, yes, that's going to stop him....

That won't even stop Putin from laughing his head off.

goilo888

&gt;‘I’d get home, I’d say, “First lady, I had the most wonderful talk with Vladimir. I think we’re finished.”

&gt;‘And then I’ll turn on the television, or she’ll say to me one time, “Wow, that’s strange because they just bombed a nursing home,”‘ he said.

&gt;**Attendees at the White House State Dining Room laughed.**

The demented orange played it as a *joke*.

ErilazHateka

Not 2 weeks? Pfft cmon?

And after 50 days he will beg more on Twitter?

Just send Shells, missles, drones, jets, etc to Ukraine and let Ukraine do the heavy work...

notmyfirstrodeo2

sebastianstehle

Is this like the tariff deadline for trade deals that he then extended three times?

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